but they can get more than $150,000 for a live show dolphin.
I told Ric that I'd help him out,
that we'll fix this, we'll change this.
And I didn't tell him how
because I really didn't know how we were going to do it.
There are lots of groups here in Japan——
World Wildlife Fund, Greenpeace,
International Fund for Animal Welfare.
They all make hundreds of millions of dollars between them.
This is the largest slaughter of dolphins in the world.
Where are they?
There is one organization
whose sole purpose is to protect all cetaceans in the wild.
the lnternational Whaling Commission.
But for some reason,
small cetaceans, dolphins and porpoises, aren't protected.
Dolphins are whales.
Size doesn't matter.
The WC will go down in history as a ship of fools.
There's no—— There's no democracy here
by any stretch of the imagination.
They do whatever the hell they want to do.
Mr. O'Barry, you know I'm here.
I have to ask you to leave the hotel.
You could have waited till morning, but——
Sir, I asked you very nicely to turn off your camera.
The reason why small cetaceans are not popular with the lWC
is because the whaling nations that set this thing up
clearly has the best interest in leaving those out,
particularly if they happen to be eating them.
Joji Marshita is the Deputy Commissioner for Whaling.
He's a talented guy from Japan with a real hard job to do.
He has to get up every day.
First he'll look at himself in the mirror,
and then he's got to go out
and explain to the world Japan's whaling policy.
Very complicated subject to get around.
It's clear the issue of whaling
is becoming more of emotions.
We have never had a convincing reason
why this species is so special.
The lnternational Whaling Commission
is the only international body dealing with whales
that's officially recognized by the United Nations.
It's basically a toothless organization,
but it is the only organization that does exist.
Well, there's a clause in the lnternational Whaling Convention
that allows a nation to take whales for science,
and Japan has decided that that's its loophole.
Currently, Japan has research programs
that involve killing minke whales,
fin whales, sei whales, and humpback whales.
Every scientific catch, to me,
is a dark spot on the record of this commission.
They're talking about the 1,000 whales in the Antarctic.
They're not talking about
the 23,000 over here being slaughtered.
The IWC has presided
over one of the greatest environmental catastrophes of all time.
The reality is the lnternational Whaling Commission
does have a mandate
to look at issues affecting dolphins,
but the Japanese are trying to legitimize a practice
that just about every country in the world has said no to.
Governments are really great
at getting together and holding meetings and conferences and glad-handing each other,
but they never ever seem to accomplish anything.
It's as Margaret Mead once said——
never ever depend upon governments or institutions
to solve any major problem.
All social change comes from the passion of individuals.
If saving cetacean species from extinction
relies upon the lnternational Whaling Commission,
then there is no hope.
During the Greek era,
it was punishable by death to harm a dolphin.
They were protected,
and they were protected
because there's a lot of stories throughout history
of dolphins saving the lives of humans.
There's some real magic there when you're on a wave together.
There's this other species
that you can't consciously communicate with,
and you're both experiencing a thing
that's purely for joy
beyond the level of survival.
I went surfing on the east coast of Australia.
About half an hour into the session,
I was sitting with this friend of mine,
and he goes, "Wait,"
and on the surface of the next wave was a tiger shark.
Its fins were down, and it was in the zone.
This thing was literally 2 meters away from me,
and I look down, and right there——
it's like in a glass case in a wall——
this dolphin comes out of right field
and T-bones this shark
and pushes it directly away from me and my buddy.